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Fresh off the debut of his very own talk show The Chris Heyn Show, the internet’s ‘unc’ swaps roles as host with Californian band The Hellp to talk the UK underground scene, an LA spin-off and sleeping with blink-182.
On weekdays, Chris Heyn Jr. and The Hellp live pretty different lives. One’s a Connecticut-bred corporate warrior who wears Thom Browne shirts and Moncler gilets to his 9-5, all the while giving life advice to his thousands of TikTok followers. The other, a pair of Hedi Slimane Dior-wearing artists cooking up some of the most talked about electronic music right now and gracing every cool party in the world.
As soon as the clock strikes 5 on Fridays, however, their lives start to intertwine. Heyn’s quarter zips and loafers get switched out for Chrome Hearts t-shirts and his signature Maison Margiela GATs, as he suits up to enter his other life as a self-proclaimed “weekend rockstar.” He trades client lunches in Midtown Manhattan for a trip to Amsterdam to get on stage with viral rapper ian. He’s also at all the underground parties with his music artist friends like Feng and PureSnow, getting sent their unreleased tracks and, before you know it, he’s running in the same circles as The Hellp.
Now, he’s got something else to add to his after-work to-do list: his very own talk show. In collaboration with Welcome.jpeg, The Chris Heyn Show is an even bigger testament to the aggressive duality of his double life. Having already hosted London rapper Feng and fashion royalty Wisdom Kaye on the first two episodes, this isn’t just Heyn talking to his famous friends. It’s about him highlighting the up-and-coming talent in the industry he’s really betting on – spanning music, fashion, and even content creation. Now, he welcomes The Hellp’s Noah Dillon and Chandler Ransom Lucy to the floor for the show’s third installment. And to celebrate the release of the episode, we got Heyn to hand over the host chair to Dillon and Lucy.
Noah Dillon: Do you remember how we met?
Chris Heyn Jr.: I became aware of Noah during the Hot Mess era, like what he was doing with Luka [Sabbat] at Milk Studios. We didn’t meet then, we actually didn’t meet until like this year, but that’s when Noah first came on my radar and I was just like, “All right, who’s this dude? He seems creative. He seems edgy and cool.” So that was my first indoctrination to his world a little bit. But then I didn’t honestly hear too much for a bit but then I saw what he was doing kind of behind the scenes with 2hollis and some of these other major artists on the rise made me pay attention to him again and then with The Hellp and when he linked with Chandler (Ransom Lucy) that all started. So, it took on this whole new form and I just got very, I guess, excited for both of them and the next stage of what Noah was doing. But social media really, this year.
ND: Very, very interesting. I had no idea you knew about the Hot Mess days, you were tapped in.
CHJ: Yeah, dude. You might be a year or two younger than me but we’re kind of around the same age of culture and stuff. So like 2016/2017 I was paying attention to it but I wasn’t involved.
ND: In my head, you sort of became aware of I guess the scene or the culture maybe like 2021/22 or something. That’s cool that you know the history – I mean it makes sense but I kind of forget that so much happened between like 2016 and 2020.
CHJ: Yeah, I was definitely paying attention and viewing it, but I didn’t have my own lane to share myself. I was seeing what you were doing and it was cool to kind of see how you took it from there. But that’s when I first became aware of you, we didn’t meet until social media this year.
ND: I hate using this word, I’m sure you probably do too, but the content creator thing. What made you really get on the internet? Because you have a job and you didn’t have to.
CHJ: Since I started college, I always wanted more and I didn’t know exactly how to find it and I’m a bit of a baby in ways where I like comfort and everything was telling me: “You just graduated college, go find a job,” and my parents were pushing me with that. But I’ve always really liked sharing myself and sharing visuals that I like.
I created an account in 2016 that was anonymous and I called it “Beef Wand” at the time which was my Halo 3 gamer tag. It was an archive page. It was all just pictures and visuals and videos I liked and some of them were really sexy and almost ‘Playboy-ish’ so, I didn’t tell my friends about it. I didn’t tell my family about it because I wasn’t really ready to share that part of myself yet. But I was posting a ton and I gained this following and then I changed the name during COVID to “Havoc Henry” because I was like, “Let me try to take this a little bit more seriously and maybe make it like an agency or drop some clothes or merch or something.” Beef Wand was a funny name, but I was like, “Let’s grow up a bit.” In retrospect, maybe I should have just kept it because it’s kind of funny and it’s authentic to me but I’ve always liked that journey of sharing what inspires me and what aesthetic I want. I’ve tried so many ways to share and cultivate an image of what I like and then, eventually, I was like, “Let me just put my face behind it and let’s kind of combine it all,” and that’s where TikTok helped a lot too. So that’s a little bit about the journey and the start.
ND: Yeah, I mean that that’s how I became aware of you. Like I’m moderately tapped in, especially on TikTok just because like that’s where culture is moving and growing and shifting day by day. But I remember seeing you – I don’t know if it was a year ago or maybe it was even a little bit more but it was pretty obvious immediately when I saw what you were doing, I was like, “Okay, that’s where there’s a big gap in the market and this guy’s filling it.” And you would see something where you know people are going to like it and you have the right face and saying the right things for it immediately.
Chandler Ransom Lucy: If I may add, I think also – how I would put it is you are shockingly handsome and it’s mindblowing to me that you look as good as you do. Is that part of the reason you started the show? I mean, I’m not trying to be funny but your face is just so absolutely gorgeous. I’m curious if that was like, “Oh, I should have a talk show because I look like that.”
CHJ: No, I appreciate that. That kind of goes back to my content journey. Right after college, I was scouted when I moved to the city and I was scouted by a modeling agency and I kind of wanted to do it because, honestly, no one really wants to work a corporate job. My parents were listening and saying, “There’s not a good career trajectory there, we just paid for your college, you’re going to go get a real job.” So I did and I listened to them but, in the back of my mind, I always wondered about what could have happened if I tried that and I risked it. And I know I would never be the top model or like a Jordan Barrett or anything but it’s fun to put a personality with that in my brain and what I think it would take for me to get there.
This journey is long and windy but I wanted to be a face behind it too, whether it’s you acting, interviewing people, just just putting myself out there. So, that had to do with it a little bit because, of course, we all have an ego but they rejected the agency and I went to go work. So, it’s always been in the back of my mind like, “What could I do with this?”
ND: I mean it was probably for the best. It seems like you have that waspy vibe. It’s very Jonathan Anderson Dior mixed with streetwear, like your style and the way you think is really in vogue right now. I remember years ago in that Soho era, I would walk down the street with Luka [Sabbat] and people would freak out when they would see Luka but it’s not necessarily like that anymore, just culturally it’s different. But are people noticing you on the street in New York? Are you stopping and taking photos with kids? And also do your co-workers know what’s up? Do they know what you’re doing?
CHJ: My co-workers do know what’s up. So, anyone under 40, I would say, knows what’s up. It’s started to bubble over to some of the seniors and I just get embarrassed and I don’t really want to talk about it. But I’m grateful for it, obviously it’s flattering too. In terms of being stopped, my life has definitely changed quite a bit in the past two years, maybe a year and a half. Whether it’s asking for a picture or an intern at my office, it’s so humbling that it’s become global too.
When I was in Amsterdam a couple weeks ago, every day in Amsterdam I was getting stopped for pictures. TikTok and the internet really does have a crazy reach and I think even becoming famous for 10 minutes or 15 minutes, people still see your face so if you make any sort of impression on people, they’ll remember you. I think we are at this crazy new celebrity and not saying I’m a celebrity, but like I do get stopped every single day and I love it. So yeah, it’s definitely changed in the past two years.
Ian Hunter: What do your parents think? Do they see the vision like there’s something else or do they still want you to keep the day job?
CHJ: It’s an inner turmoil I have because I’ll see some comments sometimes like, “He should keep his day job because that’s why he’s attractive to people,” and I’m like, “Wow.” But I think a lot of people see the vision, but I’m not expecting everyone to. That’s for me to prove over time. I’m super grateful for my job, my boss is great, and that’s why I’m still here. But there is something interesting about the duality of what I’m doing after hours and during the day at work, people are attracted to that. There’s a couple accounts or examples of people or – I hate the term influencers but they had 9-to-5s and they made their thing kind of the 9-to-5 and then once they got big enough and they ditched it, then they weren’t relatable so people didn’t like them anymore. But I’ve always tried to not make my thing like the 9-to-5 because I don’t ever want it to be my whole identity. Hopefully people see the vision and I can turn this into what I want it to and create this beautiful life that I dream of but, for now, I’m just kind of hustling and doing as much as I can with everything and keeping my day job even though it sucks.
ND: You’re right. People like the duality. Everyone likes somebody who’s on the grind. But I love the video that you and the [Welcome.jpeg] guys dropped where it’s like you’re in the office, you go outside, there’s multiple outfit changes. It was really, really well done and really I think it exemplified why people like you and even to a new audience – my mum could watch that video and she’d probably get it immediately. I think you guys set the stage really well. And who’s your first guest, is Feng your first guest?
CHJ: Yeah, we had Feng on last week. That went pretty well. Of course, with any new account, the show’s TikTok page thought I was impersonating myself so we got banned like the day after we posted that video. The first two videos did awesome, I was so stoked with how it started and then we started rolling out the clips and I’m like “Fuck, we just got banned.” But we’re back, we’re good. Naturally we had little speed bumps and early learning curve things but today, we’re dropping a new episode with Wisdom [Kaye] and then we got ian the week after so a fun start to it all and I’m so excited to see how it goes. I’m seeing a lot of really good feedback and constructive criticism already so I’m stoked on it. It’s putting myself out there in a new vulnerable way and I got to be good. You guys know this too, when you’re doing anything new, you have to grow a thick skin for the naysayers or for people doubting you – or just trolls. So, I’m learning that.
ND: For a while, we got our fair share of hate and I didn’t really understand it. I was just sort of angry about it but I almost kind of – not that I enjoy it, but it’s almost like hazing or streamlining the grain and sifting it to get the best out. It’s almost like people have to put you through a litmus test and then if you get on the other side, you’re good. I’m going to ask you a fashion question: you got to put Chandler and I on one fashion item that’s not a quarter zip that you think that we’d look good in because, right now, we’re really locked into wearing suits or leather jackets, but we’ve got to figure out something else. So, you got to put us on.
CRL: I mean, I’m not changing, but I’m open to suggestions.
ND: That’s what you think.
CHJ: Well, I think I saw you were wearing these white snakeskin boots with your Hedi [Slimane] jeans and, look, your rockstar punk look – I don’t want to change your guys’ vibe and what you have going because it’s so you and it works for you. I think you could wear a Margiela sweater, like a black full zip. There’s one I have in mind, but that is basically the quarter zip vibe. You got your footwear down, you’re not going to wear [Maison Margiela] GATs. Would you ever wear [Balenciaga] Arenas?
ND: Dude, those are the things that we wanted years and years ago but then we didn’t have the money and then things change and whatnot. I have the KVA (Kris Van Assche) sneakers, like the multi-lace ones and a bunch of that kind of stuff from that era but the [Balenciaga] Arenas are sick.
CHJ: I think you guys would do really well in CCP (Carol Christin Poell) if you don’t already wear it. That’s not my ‘steez’, but it’s definitely in your realm of rockstar.
ND: Chandler’s been yelling about bucket hats lately, but I don’t know.
CRL: All right, to be completely transparent, it’s not because it’s purely been a subconscious thought. It’s been more like water motion that bucket hats have come out of my mouth lately as opposed to a conscientious passion thought. We were also in England and really drunk.
CHJ: That’s so funny. Yeah, that would look good. You guys have good flowy hair, too. I feel like with bucket hats, you can’t have short hair, you need to show a little bit of lettuce. A bucket hat could work.
ND: Artist-wise, who do you think is going to blow up next year?
CHJ: PureSnow. I’ve been talking to him a lot and he sent me a new project he’s working on. I mean, you guys know. I was actually so impressed, I didn’t know until you told me and then I feel like I saw it a million times of you being on the cover of London’s Saviour [by fakemink]. The UK, London music scene has just been on fire the past year and there’s a couple copycats coming out and there’s a couple of things that won’t last that are just little flashes in the pan. But something that [fake]mink has created and something of this UK underground, EsDeeKid is going to be here for a little bit and there’s a couple horses I’m betting on like PureSnow. I just met him when he was here and he’s only 17 but he produces all of his tracks too and he’s a really nice kid and I also met his mom. But I think he could definitely get bigger in the next year or like to start to hone his craft a bit. Let me think of some others – ear!
ND: That’s so funny you say that. I was just thinking you’re in my head, but I’m like, “Ah, he probably doesn’t know who that is”.
CHJ: Dude, I know ear, of course I know ear. But yeah, ear is sick. It gives your vibe, Snow Strippers, Crystal Castles. So I’m going to say ear and PureSnow for two if I had to pick off the top of my head.
ND: You’re right, I think they’re both going to pop. Plus, ear has that The Postal Service vibe that people like. That very listenable vibe that people definitely want. They’re going to be big for sure.
CHJ: Yeah, they’re cool.
ND: We’re honoured that we’re going to be on an episode, that was fun. I love the stage design, the whole setup you guys have is sick. And like Chandler said, in a more garish way, you’re a beautiful guy. You have the face for television like we were talking about so I’m excited to see the whole roll out and all that. But, you should do one in LA, like a Johnny Carson went to LA thing. You should do a couple episodes next season in LA, poolside at Chateau [Marmont] or something and then you do the New York stuff.
CHJ: I love that idea of taking it on the road and, honestly, thank you so much for being a part of it early and I’m so happy to have you guys involved in it. The set was very cool but I should have had a table next to you guys for your drinks. There’s a couple random little things I’m seeing where I’m like, “Fuck, why didn’t we pick up on this the first time?” Also, this desk is what we wanted for the Johnny Carson vibe but carrying that up the stage each time is pretty cumbersome so maybe we’ll find a more portable desk that we don’t have to store each time. But just little things like having better chairs for you guys or something next to you for your drinks.
ND: If you’ve got one person on earth to lead off next season, who would it be? Could be anybody.
CHJ: Britney Spears. I think Britney Spears would be crazy and amazing. I was gonna say David Beckham just because he’s one of my favourite people and I’ve never met him and he’s one of my personal biggest inspirations but I think Britney. With where we’re at on the internet, she’s kind of all of us in many ways and I want to check on her and see how she’s doing. I grew up with two older sisters and they were obsessed with Britney and I just feel like she might be in a struggling place or an interesting place right now, but she’s such an icon. So, I’m going to say Britney Spears right now. It’s a little random, but I think I want her on.
ND: That’s not bad. In my head, the first thing that popped in my head was Tom Cruise so it’s not too far off, kind of the same era.
CHJ: Yes, I want that early 2000s iconic vibe.
ND: This is the Noah-Chandler show right now and this is the part of the show where we let Chandler ask the craziest question possible. Chandler, go.
CRL: All right. So, hear me out: if you had to have a male group sex with any ’90s to 2000s pop punk band, which band would you pick and are you going to pick the right answer?
CHJ: Wow, there’s so much to pick from. I guess, top of mind, I’m going to say blink-182 because they’re the coolest.
CRL: Real shit. I mean, it can come down to whoever you want to be inside the most is kind of where I was getting at.
CHJ: That’s something we’ve bonded over, Chandler, is I think our love for that era.
CRL: Yeah, completely.
CHJ: So many things come to mind like Alien Ant Farm. Deftones is the sexiest and the most badass, in a way. I’m just going to go blink-182, final answer. Everyone loves them.
ND: Ding ding ding ding.
CRL: Absolutely. Yeah, that was the right answer. But I will say, to add upon that: you did get me super fired up the other day when you posted that Alien Ant Farm song on your [Instagram] story.
CHJ: I love that, I’m really into all that and I still am. I have family in LA and my uncle is a big surfer and he would take me and my cousin surfing when we were little and I remember driving down PCH (Pacific Coast Highway) and he would play all that stuff for us. So, I have a lot of love for that kind of music and it’s very special to me.
ND: For the last round here, we’re going to do some rapid fire: [Michael] Jordan or LeBron [James]?
CHJ: Jordan.
ND: [Tom] Brady or [Joe] Montana?
CHJ: Montana.
ND: [Playboi] Carti or [Lil] Uzi [Vert]?
CHJ: Carti.
ND: [Cristiano] Ronaldo or [Lionel] Messi?
CHJ: That’s so hard. I get asked that so much and I’m going to say Ronaldo. But I love Messi now, too. As a kid, I grew up a Ronaldo fan, but I love them both. I don’t like what Ronaldo’s really done with his career in the past 5-10 years but I’m picking Ronaldo.
ND: Ronaldo or [David] Beckham?
CHJ: Beckham. Ronaldo was a better player, but what Beckham has done in his career and culturally – he inspired me the most.
ND: Tom Ford or Ralph [Lauren]?
CHJ: Ralph, classic Americana.
ND: New York or LA?
CHJ: New York.
ND: New York or Chicago?
CHJ: New York.
ND: New York or Paris?
CHJ: New York.
ND: New York or London?
CHJ: New York. I love it so much and it’s my city so I’m going to have to pick New York over everything, even though I need to get out every weekend and it drives me crazy. I love visiting other cities but I don’t think I could live in any other city but New York. I don’t know, hopefully I’ll grow up and get rid of that mentality, but right now, it’s New York.
ND: It’s New York guys, you guys heard it here first. It’s the Chris Heyn Show, live from New York, goodnight!
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Fresh off the debut of his very own talk show The Chris Heyn Show, the internet’s ‘unc’ swaps roles as host with Californian band The Hellp to talk the UK underground scene, an LA spin-off and sleeping with blink-182.
On weekdays, Chris Heyn Jr. and The Hellp live pretty different lives. One’s a Connecticut-bred corporate warrior who wears Thom Browne shirts and Moncler gilets to his 9-5, all the while giving life advice to his thousands of TikTok followers. The other, a pair of Hedi Slimane Dior-wearing artists cooking up some of the most talked about electronic music right now and gracing every cool party in the world.
As soon as the clock strikes 5 on Fridays, however, their lives start to intertwine. Heyn’s quarter zips and loafers get switched out for Chrome Hearts t-shirts and his signature Maison Margiela GATs, as he suits up to enter his other life as a self-proclaimed “weekend rockstar.” He trades client lunches in Midtown Manhattan for a trip to Amsterdam to get on stage with viral rapper ian. He’s also at all the underground parties with his music artist friends like Feng and PureSnow, getting sent their unreleased tracks and, before you know it, he’s running in the same circles as The Hellp.
Now, he’s got something else to add to his after-work to-do list: his very own talk show. In collaboration with Welcome.jpeg, The Chris Heyn Show is an even bigger testament to the aggressive duality of his double life. Having already hosted London rapper Feng and fashion royalty Wisdom Kaye on the first two episodes, this isn’t just Heyn talking to his famous friends. It’s about him highlighting the up-and-coming talent in the industry he’s really betting on – spanning music, fashion, and even content creation. Now, he welcomes The Hellp’s Noah Dillon and Chandler Ransom Lucy to the floor for the show’s third installment. And to celebrate the release of the episode, we got Heyn to hand over the host chair to Dillon and Lucy.
Noah Dillon: Do you remember how we met?
Chris Heyn Jr.: I became aware of Noah during the Hot Mess era, like what he was doing with Luka [Sabbat] at Milk Studios. We didn’t meet then, we actually didn’t meet until like this year, but that’s when Noah first came on my radar and I was just like, “All right, who’s this dude? He seems creative. He seems edgy and cool.” So that was my first indoctrination to his world a little bit. But then I didn’t honestly hear too much for a bit but then I saw what he was doing kind of behind the scenes with 2hollis and some of these other major artists on the rise made me pay attention to him again and then with The Hellp and when he linked with Chandler (Ransom Lucy) that all started. So, it took on this whole new form and I just got very, I guess, excited for both of them and the next stage of what Noah was doing. But social media really, this year.
ND: Very, very interesting. I had no idea you knew about the Hot Mess days, you were tapped in.
CHJ: Yeah, dude. You might be a year or two younger than me but we’re kind of around the same age of culture and stuff. So like 2016/2017 I was paying attention to it but I wasn’t involved.
ND: In my head, you sort of became aware of I guess the scene or the culture maybe like 2021/22 or something. That’s cool that you know the history – I mean it makes sense but I kind of forget that so much happened between like 2016 and 2020.
CHJ: Yeah, I was definitely paying attention and viewing it, but I didn’t have my own lane to share myself. I was seeing what you were doing and it was cool to kind of see how you took it from there. But that’s when I first became aware of you, we didn’t meet until social media this year.
ND: I hate using this word, I’m sure you probably do too, but the content creator thing. What made you really get on the internet? Because you have a job and you didn’t have to.
CHJ: Since I started college, I always wanted more and I didn’t know exactly how to find it and I’m a bit of a baby in ways where I like comfort and everything was telling me: “You just graduated college, go find a job,” and my parents were pushing me with that. But I’ve always really liked sharing myself and sharing visuals that I like.
I created an account in 2016 that was anonymous and I called it “Beef Wand” at the time which was my Halo 3 gamer tag. It was an archive page. It was all just pictures and visuals and videos I liked and some of them were really sexy and almost ‘Playboy-ish’ so, I didn’t tell my friends about it. I didn’t tell my family about it because I wasn’t really ready to share that part of myself yet. But I was posting a ton and I gained this following and then I changed the name during COVID to “Havoc Henry” because I was like, “Let me try to take this a little bit more seriously and maybe make it like an agency or drop some clothes or merch or something.” Beef Wand was a funny name, but I was like, “Let’s grow up a bit.” In retrospect, maybe I should have just kept it because it’s kind of funny and it’s authentic to me but I’ve always liked that journey of sharing what inspires me and what aesthetic I want. I’ve tried so many ways to share and cultivate an image of what I like and then, eventually, I was like, “Let me just put my face behind it and let’s kind of combine it all,” and that’s where TikTok helped a lot too. So that’s a little bit about the journey and the start.
ND: Yeah, I mean that that’s how I became aware of you. Like I’m moderately tapped in, especially on TikTok just because like that’s where culture is moving and growing and shifting day by day. But I remember seeing you – I don’t know if it was a year ago or maybe it was even a little bit more but it was pretty obvious immediately when I saw what you were doing, I was like, “Okay, that’s where there’s a big gap in the market and this guy’s filling it.” And you would see something where you know people are going to like it and you have the right face and saying the right things for it immediately.
Chandler Ransom Lucy: If I may add, I think also – how I would put it is you are shockingly handsome and it’s mindblowing to me that you look as good as you do. Is that part of the reason you started the show? I mean, I’m not trying to be funny but your face is just so absolutely gorgeous. I’m curious if that was like, “Oh, I should have a talk show because I look like that.”
CHJ: No, I appreciate that. That kind of goes back to my content journey. Right after college, I was scouted when I moved to the city and I was scouted by a modeling agency and I kind of wanted to do it because, honestly, no one really wants to work a corporate job. My parents were listening and saying, “There’s not a good career trajectory there, we just paid for your college, you’re going to go get a real job.” So I did and I listened to them but, in the back of my mind, I always wondered about what could have happened if I tried that and I risked it. And I know I would never be the top model or like a Jordan Barrett or anything but it’s fun to put a personality with that in my brain and what I think it would take for me to get there.
This journey is long and windy but I wanted to be a face behind it too, whether it’s you acting, interviewing people, just just putting myself out there. So, that had to do with it a little bit because, of course, we all have an ego but they rejected the agency and I went to go work. So, it’s always been in the back of my mind like, “What could I do with this?”
ND: I mean it was probably for the best. It seems like you have that waspy vibe. It’s very Jonathan Anderson Dior mixed with streetwear, like your style and the way you think is really in vogue right now. I remember years ago in that Soho era, I would walk down the street with Luka [Sabbat] and people would freak out when they would see Luka but it’s not necessarily like that anymore, just culturally it’s different. But are people noticing you on the street in New York? Are you stopping and taking photos with kids? And also do your co-workers know what’s up? Do they know what you’re doing?
CHJ: My co-workers do know what’s up. So, anyone under 40, I would say, knows what’s up. It’s started to bubble over to some of the seniors and I just get embarrassed and I don’t really want to talk about it. But I’m grateful for it, obviously it’s flattering too. In terms of being stopped, my life has definitely changed quite a bit in the past two years, maybe a year and a half. Whether it’s asking for a picture or an intern at my office, it’s so humbling that it’s become global too.
When I was in Amsterdam a couple weeks ago, every day in Amsterdam I was getting stopped for pictures. TikTok and the internet really does have a crazy reach and I think even becoming famous for 10 minutes or 15 minutes, people still see your face so if you make any sort of impression on people, they’ll remember you. I think we are at this crazy new celebrity and not saying I’m a celebrity, but like I do get stopped every single day and I love it. So yeah, it’s definitely changed in the past two years.
Ian Hunter: What do your parents think? Do they see the vision like there’s something else or do they still want you to keep the day job?
CHJ: It’s an inner turmoil I have because I’ll see some comments sometimes like, “He should keep his day job because that’s why he’s attractive to people,” and I’m like, “Wow.” But I think a lot of people see the vision, but I’m not expecting everyone to. That’s for me to prove over time. I’m super grateful for my job, my boss is great, and that’s why I’m still here. But there is something interesting about the duality of what I’m doing after hours and during the day at work, people are attracted to that. There’s a couple accounts or examples of people or – I hate the term influencers but they had 9-to-5s and they made their thing kind of the 9-to-5 and then once they got big enough and they ditched it, then they weren’t relatable so people didn’t like them anymore. But I’ve always tried to not make my thing like the 9-to-5 because I don’t ever want it to be my whole identity. Hopefully people see the vision and I can turn this into what I want it to and create this beautiful life that I dream of but, for now, I’m just kind of hustling and doing as much as I can with everything and keeping my day job even though it sucks.
ND: You’re right. People like the duality. Everyone likes somebody who’s on the grind. But I love the video that you and the [Welcome.jpeg] guys dropped where it’s like you’re in the office, you go outside, there’s multiple outfit changes. It was really, really well done and really I think it exemplified why people like you and even to a new audience – my mum could watch that video and she’d probably get it immediately. I think you guys set the stage really well. And who’s your first guest, is Feng your first guest?
CHJ: Yeah, we had Feng on last week. That went pretty well. Of course, with any new account, the show’s TikTok page thought I was impersonating myself so we got banned like the day after we posted that video. The first two videos did awesome, I was so stoked with how it started and then we started rolling out the clips and I’m like “Fuck, we just got banned.” But we’re back, we’re good. Naturally we had little speed bumps and early learning curve things but today, we’re dropping a new episode with Wisdom [Kaye] and then we got ian the week after so a fun start to it all and I’m so excited to see how it goes. I’m seeing a lot of really good feedback and constructive criticism already so I’m stoked on it. It’s putting myself out there in a new vulnerable way and I got to be good. You guys know this too, when you’re doing anything new, you have to grow a thick skin for the naysayers or for people doubting you – or just trolls. So, I’m learning that.
ND: For a while, we got our fair share of hate and I didn’t really understand it. I was just sort of angry about it but I almost kind of – not that I enjoy it, but it’s almost like hazing or streamlining the grain and sifting it to get the best out. It’s almost like people have to put you through a litmus test and then if you get on the other side, you’re good. I’m going to ask you a fashion question: you got to put Chandler and I on one fashion item that’s not a quarter zip that you think that we’d look good in because, right now, we’re really locked into wearing suits or leather jackets, but we’ve got to figure out something else. So, you got to put us on.
CRL: I mean, I’m not changing, but I’m open to suggestions.
ND: That’s what you think.
CHJ: Well, I think I saw you were wearing these white snakeskin boots with your Hedi [Slimane] jeans and, look, your rockstar punk look – I don’t want to change your guys’ vibe and what you have going because it’s so you and it works for you. I think you could wear a Margiela sweater, like a black full zip. There’s one I have in mind, but that is basically the quarter zip vibe. You got your footwear down, you’re not going to wear [Maison Margiela] GATs. Would you ever wear [Balenciaga] Arenas?
ND: Dude, those are the things that we wanted years and years ago but then we didn’t have the money and then things change and whatnot. I have the KVA (Kris Van Assche) sneakers, like the multi-lace ones and a bunch of that kind of stuff from that era but the [Balenciaga] Arenas are sick.
CHJ: I think you guys would do really well in CCP (Carol Christin Poell) if you don’t already wear it. That’s not my ‘steez’, but it’s definitely in your realm of rockstar.
ND: Chandler’s been yelling about bucket hats lately, but I don’t know.
CRL: All right, to be completely transparent, it’s not because it’s purely been a subconscious thought. It’s been more like water motion that bucket hats have come out of my mouth lately as opposed to a conscientious passion thought. We were also in England and really drunk.
CHJ: That’s so funny. Yeah, that would look good. You guys have good flowy hair, too. I feel like with bucket hats, you can’t have short hair, you need to show a little bit of lettuce. A bucket hat could work.
ND: Artist-wise, who do you think is going to blow up next year?
CHJ: PureSnow. I’ve been talking to him a lot and he sent me a new project he’s working on. I mean, you guys know. I was actually so impressed, I didn’t know until you told me and then I feel like I saw it a million times of you being on the cover of London’s Saviour [by fakemink]. The UK, London music scene has just been on fire the past year and there’s a couple copycats coming out and there’s a couple of things that won’t last that are just little flashes in the pan. But something that [fake]mink has created and something of this UK underground, EsDeeKid is going to be here for a little bit and there’s a couple horses I’m betting on like PureSnow. I just met him when he was here and he’s only 17 but he produces all of his tracks too and he’s a really nice kid and I also met his mom. But I think he could definitely get bigger in the next year or like to start to hone his craft a bit. Let me think of some others – ear!
ND: That’s so funny you say that. I was just thinking you’re in my head, but I’m like, “Ah, he probably doesn’t know who that is”.
CHJ: Dude, I know ear, of course I know ear. But yeah, ear is sick. It gives your vibe, Snow Strippers, Crystal Castles. So I’m going to say ear and PureSnow for two if I had to pick off the top of my head.
ND: You’re right, I think they’re both going to pop. Plus, ear has that The Postal Service vibe that people like. That very listenable vibe that people definitely want. They’re going to be big for sure.
CHJ: Yeah, they’re cool.
ND: We’re honoured that we’re going to be on an episode, that was fun. I love the stage design, the whole setup you guys have is sick. And like Chandler said, in a more garish way, you’re a beautiful guy. You have the face for television like we were talking about so I’m excited to see the whole roll out and all that. But, you should do one in LA, like a Johnny Carson went to LA thing. You should do a couple episodes next season in LA, poolside at Chateau [Marmont] or something and then you do the New York stuff.
CHJ: I love that idea of taking it on the road and, honestly, thank you so much for being a part of it early and I’m so happy to have you guys involved in it. The set was very cool but I should have had a table next to you guys for your drinks. There’s a couple random little things I’m seeing where I’m like, “Fuck, why didn’t we pick up on this the first time?” Also, this desk is what we wanted for the Johnny Carson vibe but carrying that up the stage each time is pretty cumbersome so maybe we’ll find a more portable desk that we don’t have to store each time. But just little things like having better chairs for you guys or something next to you for your drinks.
ND: If you’ve got one person on earth to lead off next season, who would it be? Could be anybody.
CHJ: Britney Spears. I think Britney Spears would be crazy and amazing. I was gonna say David Beckham just because he’s one of my favourite people and I’ve never met him and he’s one of my personal biggest inspirations but I think Britney. With where we’re at on the internet, she’s kind of all of us in many ways and I want to check on her and see how she’s doing. I grew up with two older sisters and they were obsessed with Britney and I just feel like she might be in a struggling place or an interesting place right now, but she’s such an icon. So, I’m going to say Britney Spears right now. It’s a little random, but I think I want her on.
ND: That’s not bad. In my head, the first thing that popped in my head was Tom Cruise so it’s not too far off, kind of the same era.
CHJ: Yes, I want that early 2000s iconic vibe.
ND: This is the Noah-Chandler show right now and this is the part of the show where we let Chandler ask the craziest question possible. Chandler, go.
CRL: All right. So, hear me out: if you had to have a male group sex with any ’90s to 2000s pop punk band, which band would you pick and are you going to pick the right answer?
CHJ: Wow, there’s so much to pick from. I guess, top of mind, I’m going to say blink-182 because they’re the coolest.
CRL: Real shit. I mean, it can come down to whoever you want to be inside the most is kind of where I was getting at.
CHJ: That’s something we’ve bonded over, Chandler, is I think our love for that era.
CRL: Yeah, completely.
CHJ: So many things come to mind like Alien Ant Farm. Deftones is the sexiest and the most badass, in a way. I’m just going to go blink-182, final answer. Everyone loves them.
ND: Ding ding ding ding.
CRL: Absolutely. Yeah, that was the right answer. But I will say, to add upon that: you did get me super fired up the other day when you posted that Alien Ant Farm song on your [Instagram] story.
CHJ: I love that, I’m really into all that and I still am. I have family in LA and my uncle is a big surfer and he would take me and my cousin surfing when we were little and I remember driving down PCH (Pacific Coast Highway) and he would play all that stuff for us. So, I have a lot of love for that kind of music and it’s very special to me.
ND: For the last round here, we’re going to do some rapid fire: [Michael] Jordan or LeBron [James]?
CHJ: Jordan.
ND: [Tom] Brady or [Joe] Montana?
CHJ: Montana.
ND: [Playboi] Carti or [Lil] Uzi [Vert]?
CHJ: Carti.
ND: [Cristiano] Ronaldo or [Lionel] Messi?
CHJ: That’s so hard. I get asked that so much and I’m going to say Ronaldo. But I love Messi now, too. As a kid, I grew up a Ronaldo fan, but I love them both. I don’t like what Ronaldo’s really done with his career in the past 5-10 years but I’m picking Ronaldo.
ND: Ronaldo or [David] Beckham?
CHJ: Beckham. Ronaldo was a better player, but what Beckham has done in his career and culturally – he inspired me the most.
ND: Tom Ford or Ralph [Lauren]?
CHJ: Ralph, classic Americana.
ND: New York or LA?
CHJ: New York.
ND: New York or Chicago?
CHJ: New York.
ND: New York or Paris?
CHJ: New York.
ND: New York or London?
CHJ: New York. I love it so much and it’s my city so I’m going to have to pick New York over everything, even though I need to get out every weekend and it drives me crazy. I love visiting other cities but I don’t think I could live in any other city but New York. I don’t know, hopefully I’ll grow up and get rid of that mentality, but right now, it’s New York.
ND: It’s New York guys, you guys heard it here first. It’s the Chris Heyn Show, live from New York, goodnight!
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