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Wonderland takes a trip to Amsterdam Dance Event and sits down with the Scottish DJ and producer to chat about the summer of 2024, living in the moment, and his new collaboration with Heineken.
Barry Can’t Swim’s set at Glastonbury in 2024 marked the biggest turnout ever seen on the festival’s iconic The Park stage. His debut album, When Will We Land?, released last winter, was shortlisted for this year’s Mercury Prize and secured the Scottish DJ and producer a nomination for Best Dance Act at the 2024 Brit Awards. From Los Angeles to Minneapolis, Reading to Bristol, Melbourne to Paris, Coachella to Berghain — Barry (aka Joshua Mainnie) has made 2024 his best year yet, touring worldwide amidst a packed schedule of new music releases, while solidifying himself as one of the most prominent artists in dance music today.
Unsurprisingly, when he connects with Wonderland, he’s far from home — both the English capital, where he’s been based for the past few years, and his native Edinburgh. “I’m happy to be in Amsterdam,” he says. “I love this city. Love playing here; the Dutch are always a good crowd.” It’s a Wednesday evening in the Netherlands, and for the following five days, the city will be taken over by tourists from all over the world — 500,000 people from 164 countries are expected — to experience one of Europe’s biggest music festivals, the Amsterdam Dance Event (ADE).
Before his (naturally) sold-out show at Paradiso, one of the city’s most iconic venues, Barry Can’t Swim teamed up with Heineken to kick-start the festivities, performing an intimate pop-up event in the heart of the city to celebrate the launch of The Boring Mode app. This technology, created by the Dutch brewing company, encourages audiences to live in the present and put their phones away. The idea is simple yet effective: it turns any smartphone “boring,” blocking other apps, notifications, and even the camera for a set period of time. “I’m all for people spending less time on their phones, especially on the dancefloor,” Barry says. “I think in the context of music and live events, no phones makes a huge difference to the energy and atmosphere in the room. It just helps you stay in the moment.”
From Amsterdam, Mainnie will gear up for a three-night sold-out residency at London’s O2 Brixton Academy, one of his “favourite venues in the world.” “I remember one of the first conversations with my label (Ninja Tune), I said that if I ever got to Brixton Academy, I would have completed the bucket list,” he recalls. “[It] still doesn’t quite feel real.” The summer of 2024, partnering with Heineken, releasing his own label, Earth’s Only Paradise, and what’s next—keep reading for the full chat…
Barry Can’t Swim! What a pleasure — thanks for chatting with us. How are you? What are you up to these days?
Hey! I’m good, thanks – been touring a lot this year. Working on new music, and happy to be in Amsterdam
How’s Amsterdam treating you? What’s your favourite thing to do in the city?
My favourite thing is just walking around the city, it’s nice that its small enough to do that. I’m from Edinburgh and it has a similar feel in away, small enough to walk around but there’s lots to see and do in a small area.
2024 has been a massive year for you. Looking back now, at the other end of summer, how do you reflect on these past months, and what are your favourite memories from touring all over the place? The feeling is that you’ve been everywhere!
Yeah, it’s been pretty crazy. I’m so lucky to get to visit and perform in some amazing places I’ve never been before. And seeing how far these songs that I made on a laptop have travelled. It’s really special.
We’d love to hear a bit about your creative upbringing. When did you first get into dance music, and when did you realise you’d make a career out of it?
I was actually more of an indie kid when I was growing up. I started learning piano when I was 9, my grandad found one going free in a local newspaper advert. Then I played in bands and as a guitarist and singer, I even played drums for a bit, but wasn’t very good. It was once I started going clubbing that I fell in love with electronic music. That’s really what inspired me to start producing.
What music were you around growing up? Do you think your musical education continues to shape your own sound?
Strangely, I don’t come from a musical background, really. My parents were enthusiastic about me playing instruments, but nobody else in my family did. My love of music was more of a self-discovery than being introduced to anything by my parents. I used to love just digging online for random albums I’d never heard of and listening to them in full.
What excites you most about the industry these days?
The democratisation of it all is a great thing. The fact that anyone can just get some software on a laptop and start making beats in their bedroom and it can become massive is a brilliant thing. It’s made it a lot more competitive and harder to break through, but also made making music more accessible. I’m personally quite curious to see the impact that AI will have on songwriting. Could go one of two ways, time will tell.
We’re also getting close to your sold-out run at the O2 Academy Brixton in November. Tell us a bit about your expectations for the shows and what the temperature looks like behind the scenes.
It’s pretty crazy how quickly that’s come around. And still doesn’t quite feel real… I’m excited, it’s one of my favourite venues in the world. I remember one of the first conversations with my label (Ninja Tune), I said that if I ever got to Brixton Academy, I would have completed the bucket list. There’s new unreleased music in the set, production has got bigger, and everything is ramping up. I can’t wait.
ADE x Heineken! How did this partnership come about?
I don’t usually work with brands on shows, but when Heineken reached out it [The Boring Phone & Boring Mode] sounded like an interesting concept. Something that aligns with my values around society and technology. I’m all for people spending less time on their phones, especially on the dance floor.
I actually bought myself a dumb phone very recently. I’m definitely guilty of getting sucked into social media, or unnecessarily scrolling through my phone. I think in the context of music and live events, no phones makes a huge difference to the energy and atmosphere in the room. It just helps you stay in the moment.
You also just announced the release of your own label, Earth’s Only Paradise. What’s this new chapter looking like, and what can we expect next from you?
Yeah! That’s been a goal for ages, and I’m so happy to have my good friend O’Flynn as the first release. There will be more releases and parties to come under Earths Only Paradise. And there is more music to come from myself soon as well.
Tell us a bit about your relationship with fashion! You always have some great outfits on stage.
Haha, thanks. I’ve always enjoyed fashion, it’s another way to express yourself and add to the energy. I’m definitely not tapped into the fashion world at all, its quite an alien thing to me, but I love clothes and am always looking for interesting pieces for myself. It’s a personal thing more than anything.
What’s on Barry Can’t Swim’s personal playlist at the moment?
Hmm, I love the Fontaines DC album. And on the electronic side, Pépe’s latest album is class, would recommend.
Moving forward, what excites you most about the future?
I’m just excited to keep rolling, really. I’ve only been releasing music since 2020, and only touring since 2022 (post-Covid). I’m buzzing to play in South America next year, I went there when I was a student and loved it. So to return and tour the show will be amazing. Same for Asia – I cannot wait to get out there. Plus Everton have a new owner, so big things soon.
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Wonderland takes a trip to Amsterdam Dance Event and sits down with the Scottish DJ and producer to chat about the summer of 2024, living in the moment, and his new collaboration with Heineken.
Barry Can’t Swim’s set at Glastonbury in 2024 marked the biggest turnout ever seen on the festival’s iconic The Park stage. His debut album, When Will We Land?, released last winter, was shortlisted for this year’s Mercury Prize and secured the Scottish DJ and producer a nomination for Best Dance Act at the 2024 Brit Awards. From Los Angeles to Minneapolis, Reading to Bristol, Melbourne to Paris, Coachella to Berghain — Barry (aka Joshua Mainnie) has made 2024 his best year yet, touring worldwide amidst a packed schedule of new music releases, while solidifying himself as one of the most prominent artists in dance music today.
Unsurprisingly, when he connects with Wonderland, he’s far from home — both the English capital, where he’s been based for the past few years, and his native Edinburgh. “I’m happy to be in Amsterdam,” he says. “I love this city. Love playing here; the Dutch are always a good crowd.” It’s a Wednesday evening in the Netherlands, and for the following five days, the city will be taken over by tourists from all over the world — 500,000 people from 164 countries are expected — to experience one of Europe’s biggest music festivals, the Amsterdam Dance Event (ADE).
Before his (naturally) sold-out show at Paradiso, one of the city’s most iconic venues, Barry Can’t Swim teamed up with Heineken to kick-start the festivities, performing an intimate pop-up event in the heart of the city to celebrate the launch of The Boring Mode app. This technology, created by the Dutch brewing company, encourages audiences to live in the present and put their phones away. The idea is simple yet effective: it turns any smartphone “boring,” blocking other apps, notifications, and even the camera for a set period of time. “I’m all for people spending less time on their phones, especially on the dancefloor,” Barry says. “I think in the context of music and live events, no phones makes a huge difference to the energy and atmosphere in the room. It just helps you stay in the moment.”
From Amsterdam, Mainnie will gear up for a three-night sold-out residency at London’s O2 Brixton Academy, one of his “favourite venues in the world.” “I remember one of the first conversations with my label (Ninja Tune), I said that if I ever got to Brixton Academy, I would have completed the bucket list,” he recalls. “[It] still doesn’t quite feel real.” The summer of 2024, partnering with Heineken, releasing his own label, Earth’s Only Paradise, and what’s next—keep reading for the full chat…
Barry Can’t Swim! What a pleasure — thanks for chatting with us. How are you? What are you up to these days?
Hey! I’m good, thanks – been touring a lot this year. Working on new music, and happy to be in Amsterdam
How’s Amsterdam treating you? What’s your favourite thing to do in the city?
My favourite thing is just walking around the city, it’s nice that its small enough to do that. I’m from Edinburgh and it has a similar feel in away, small enough to walk around but there’s lots to see and do in a small area.
2024 has been a massive year for you. Looking back now, at the other end of summer, how do you reflect on these past months, and what are your favourite memories from touring all over the place? The feeling is that you’ve been everywhere!
Yeah, it’s been pretty crazy. I’m so lucky to get to visit and perform in some amazing places I’ve never been before. And seeing how far these songs that I made on a laptop have travelled. It’s really special.
We’d love to hear a bit about your creative upbringing. When did you first get into dance music, and when did you realise you’d make a career out of it?
I was actually more of an indie kid when I was growing up. I started learning piano when I was 9, my grandad found one going free in a local newspaper advert. Then I played in bands and as a guitarist and singer, I even played drums for a bit, but wasn’t very good. It was once I started going clubbing that I fell in love with electronic music. That’s really what inspired me to start producing.
What music were you around growing up? Do you think your musical education continues to shape your own sound?
Strangely, I don’t come from a musical background, really. My parents were enthusiastic about me playing instruments, but nobody else in my family did. My love of music was more of a self-discovery than being introduced to anything by my parents. I used to love just digging online for random albums I’d never heard of and listening to them in full.
What excites you most about the industry these days?
The democratisation of it all is a great thing. The fact that anyone can just get some software on a laptop and start making beats in their bedroom and it can become massive is a brilliant thing. It’s made it a lot more competitive and harder to break through, but also made making music more accessible. I’m personally quite curious to see the impact that AI will have on songwriting. Could go one of two ways, time will tell.
We’re also getting close to your sold-out run at the O2 Academy Brixton in November. Tell us a bit about your expectations for the shows and what the temperature looks like behind the scenes.
It’s pretty crazy how quickly that’s come around. And still doesn’t quite feel real… I’m excited, it’s one of my favourite venues in the world. I remember one of the first conversations with my label (Ninja Tune), I said that if I ever got to Brixton Academy, I would have completed the bucket list. There’s new unreleased music in the set, production has got bigger, and everything is ramping up. I can’t wait.
ADE x Heineken! How did this partnership come about?
I don’t usually work with brands on shows, but when Heineken reached out it [The Boring Phone & Boring Mode] sounded like an interesting concept. Something that aligns with my values around society and technology. I’m all for people spending less time on their phones, especially on the dance floor.
I actually bought myself a dumb phone very recently. I’m definitely guilty of getting sucked into social media, or unnecessarily scrolling through my phone. I think in the context of music and live events, no phones makes a huge difference to the energy and atmosphere in the room. It just helps you stay in the moment.
You also just announced the release of your own label, Earth’s Only Paradise. What’s this new chapter looking like, and what can we expect next from you?
Yeah! That’s been a goal for ages, and I’m so happy to have my good friend O’Flynn as the first release. There will be more releases and parties to come under Earths Only Paradise. And there is more music to come from myself soon as well.
Tell us a bit about your relationship with fashion! You always have some great outfits on stage.
Haha, thanks. I’ve always enjoyed fashion, it’s another way to express yourself and add to the energy. I’m definitely not tapped into the fashion world at all, its quite an alien thing to me, but I love clothes and am always looking for interesting pieces for myself. It’s a personal thing more than anything.
What’s on Barry Can’t Swim’s personal playlist at the moment?
Hmm, I love the Fontaines DC album. And on the electronic side, Pépe’s latest album is class, would recommend.
Moving forward, what excites you most about the future?
I’m just excited to keep rolling, really. I’ve only been releasing music since 2020, and only touring since 2022 (post-Covid). I’m buzzing to play in South America next year, I went there when I was a student and loved it. So to return and tour the show will be amazing. Same for Asia – I cannot wait to get out there. Plus Everton have a new owner, so big things soon.
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